Today a friend told me how much he gives to his kids as an allowance. It got me thinking about the ways I might use allowance to teach my kids about money.
When I was a Little Jeff
When I was growing up my dad kept a spreadsheet in Lotus 1-2-3. If you know what Lotus 1-2-3 is, then you might be older than me. The spreadsheet calculated each kid’s allowance based on age and various other factors. I’m not sure what the other factors were. Dad, if you read this and if it’s no longer a trade secret, please feel free to disclose the other factors in the comments.
A penalty was subtracted for leaving chores undone, disobeying, and other delinquent behavior. The spreadsheet required just a few user inputs, and then automatically updated itself to calculate the allowance for each kid.
Allowance was paid at irregular intervals. It didn’t matter how often because the spreadsheet took into account the time elapsed since the last allowance. The spreadsheet figured it all out.
When it came time for allowance my dad printed out the spreadsheet. We sat down as a family and my dad distributed each kid’s allowance. My typical allowance would be about eight bucks. It was never a round number because the spreadsheet was precise. If the spreadsheet said $8.77, I got $8.77. No rounding.
Each kid had a little cardboard bank. My entire net worth was in the bank. I liked to have a mix of coins: quarters, nickels, dimes, and pennies. I was always short on dimes for some reason. I tried to trade away quarters and nickels in exchange for dimes. I would say to my brother: “I’ll trade you FIVE pennies for ONE dime. You’re getting five and only giving up one. I think you should do it.” It worked until he got older.
One of my brothers always had large penalties. The penalty deductions would zero out his allowance and then some. He had to put money back into the allowance pool. To this day he jokingly insists he paid most of my dad’s mortgage.
No allowance was paid when you had a real job. In fifth grade I got a paper route. I never got allowance again. It was a smart rule that kept my parents solvent through eight kids.
One Family Uses Capitalism
My friend told me of a family that used a free market system. When a job needed to be done, the parents got the kids together and auctioned off the work. Each kid was allowed to submit a bid. The kid with the lowest bid won the right to do the job. For example, the parents might auction off the right to take out the garbage for a week. If the lowest bid was $5, then that kid would take out the garbage for a week and make $5 in the process. Then they might auction off a harder job, like mowing the lawn. The lowest bid might be $10.
I am intrigued by the free market system because it teaches basic laws of economics. The kids would learn that some jobs are hard or require more time and effort, like mowing the lawn. Those jobs command a higher price because there is a lower supply of willing labor. On the other hand, the abundant supply of labor for the easy jobs, like taking out the garbage, drives down the price.
There would be wonderful opportunities to teach your kids that the “grown up world” follows the same rules. There are hard jobs that require more time, effort, and education. They pay more than the other jobs.
I don’t know that I’ll implement the free market system, but I might. I’m curious how long it would take my kids to figure out they could drive up the price through collusion. Then I’d have to set up antitrust laws. If it got really out of hand I’d impose communism and assign jobs at a price determine by the state. If nothing else they’d learn to appreciate capitalism.
Do You Have Other Ways?
How did your parents handle allowance? Did they incorporate free market principles? Was it determined by age or some other formula? Or was it ad hoc? Please leave a comment if you have any interesting ideas on how to handle allowance while teaching kids about money.
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The open tender system seems really interesting.
We give a fixed allowance weekly. The children have to maintain accounts and save 10%. If they want additional money, they have to do some special chores.
We started this only recently (Nov 07), and so far only once did one child so some work. (Looks like I am raising a family of socialists or is it economic communists…hehe)
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Here are ideas that worked for my 4 kids (a girl & 3 boys, all 2 yrs apart).
Since all families have disposable income AND chores, I separated the two (per Marguerite Kelly’s Mother’s Almanac). There were four daily chores: feed cats, set the table, empty dishwasher, dustbust the stairs & front hall. These rotated every week, per a posted schedule. In the summer, I added: BRT: bed, room, toilette (make the bed, tidy room, do your personal toilette-teeth,nails,hair,etc)
As a separate action, not connected to chores, each child received ten cents for each year of their life (now it’d be a dollar per year), starting at about 3 or 4 yrs old.
Because 40 cents doesn’t buy much, we agreed from the beginning to pay 1/2 of EVERYTHING they bought that cost over $1. We started with hardback books, went thru bikes, right up to cars for college. I can’t recommend this strategy enough - it’s discouraging looking at a $450 bike, but enough lawns mowed will earn $225!!
The last piece was earning more than your allowance: I had an ‘extra jobs’ list posted and any time you did an extra job, you got paid. Examples are: wash windows: 5 cents/pane, vacuum any room, ditto dust, iron, etc etc…..whatever I could think of…..
My kids are grown (26-33) now and say they loved & will carry on my ‘financial policies’….
fathersez:
Sounds like your kids believe the weekly allowance is enough. Maybe you really are raising little socialists!! Just kidding of course. I’ll bet when they grow older and they need money to buy a car, they’ll reform and take the extra jobs.
Thanks for your comment.
Peggy:
Your system has some similarities to what I grew up with. My siblings and I each had chores that were not tied to allowance. Our list of chores was quite a bit longer. I usually blocked out an hour on weekdays and 2-3 hours on Saturday for unpaid chores.
Your matching purchase program is interesting. I can see how it would encourage them to save up enough for the bike. Did you ever worry that it encouraged your kids to “save to spend” rather than “save to save”? After all, they doubled their money if they spent it.
Thanks for your comment.
Follow up post here.
Jeff: That was a wonderful post! It provided me with some great ideas on how to address allowances with my kids. Excellent post! Thanks for sharing it. I plan to include your article in my weekly carnival review this Friday.
BTW: I used Lotus 1-2-3 for the first 10+ years of my career. Let me really date myself - my first Lotus was DOS-based.
Best Wishes,
D4L
D4L:
I’ll date myself too: I grew up using DOS-based Lotus. My dad used Lotus and old WordPerfect (WordPerfect 1.0?) for over 20 years — until he got rid of his old 8088 in 2006 and joined the rest of the world on Windows and Office.
If he had kept the old computer I’m sure he’d still be using Lotus 1-2-3. Just goes to show that good software is timeless!
Thanks for your comment. I look forward to your carnival on Friday.
Jeff
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I like the way he taught children about money. I had my parents giving me a fixed weekly amount with some increment every year till i started earning.
I always got as much money as I needed but I’ve always tried to be modest and didn’t ask too much.
We are using treejars.com and so far works great, very easy to use for kids and parents. I have control of how much when approve or not, really great tool.
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I remember my dad using the Lotus 123 program with the old dos processor. Anyway, great post.
It sounds like your dad had quite a technical system. The system my wife and I use with our 3 kids is somewhat simpler. We pay a certain amount per chore. The more difficult the chore - the more money each child receives.
For example for washing dishes the amount earned would be $1. For washing the kitchen floor would be $2. For our older son when he mows the lawn he gets $5.
@Ray
My dad was the budget director of a large research university. It was in his blood to build fancy spreadsheets on Lotus 123. He used Lotus 123 to print out packing lists for everybody before each family trip.
I don’t know how big your lawn is, but I think I’d rather wash the kitchen floor 2.5 times for $5!
I wish my parents would have taught me more about money and how to handle it. My husband and I learned the hard way and after bankruptcy in our mid 20’s we are finally on track thanks to Dave Ramsey. I am going to make sure that when we have kids we educate them well. I know D. Ramsey has a course just for teaching your kids though I haven’t bought it yet but I bet it would be good.
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